When the spirit moves me. Which is fairly often.
I'm with Shelby. If I give it, there's no strings attached. If it buys them a drink or some other fix, that's their choice.
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Do you give to beggars?
by jean-luc picard ini have seldom given money to beggars.
i have often thought that many are people who just do not want to work.
however, i am starting to wonder if i ought to: and how much to give?.
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE!!...THANK YOU NOAH...AND LACK OF SCIENCE TO PROVE THE FLOOD....AND POONTANG....OMG THE POWER OF POONTANG...I WISH I COULD TAKE ALL THE CREDIT...BUT NO!!!!!
by oompa init has been a hellacious five years for many in my family...especially my poor jw wife who could almost walk on water damm it...she is a saint.....and i so hate i have hurt her in so many ways....and i mean that.....but it has hell for me too since third grade as i never fit in..... or 1995 or both of course...that damm generation of 1914 thingy being kicked to the curb..... and me knowing it was now all bs since then just as i thought it was before......you mean really???
?......you mean i actually am going to grow old and die?!?!?
!....no fukkin way?!
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How very, very, sweet it is.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
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It doesn't seem like 5 years....
by Open mind in...but 5 years ago today, i made my first post here on jwn.. .
i was an elder, had a true-believing jw wife and our unbaptized publisher children were beginning to feel pressure from other jws to take the plunge.. .
amazing how much can happen in 5 trips around the sun.. .
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Thanks Hadit, Pams Girl & Flipper.
Nickolas: " May I have some of those seeds, please?"
I'm pretty sure your tongue was firmly in cheek, but if you're interested, here's a write up of the high points.
Our situations are pretty different though and awakening your wife might actually not be the best thing for your particular situation.
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It doesn't seem like 5 years....
by Open mind in...but 5 years ago today, i made my first post here on jwn.. .
i was an elder, had a true-believing jw wife and our unbaptized publisher children were beginning to feel pressure from other jws to take the plunge.. .
amazing how much can happen in 5 trips around the sun.. .
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Thanks discreetslave & Joliette.
WildeLover: "How you manage to get out? did you fade ?"
I continued serving as an elder for a couple years, using that time to plant seeds of doubt in my wife and children.
When they were awakened, I stepped aside, we changed congregations and now I attend a meeting about once every 2-3 months.
Rest of the family even less.
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It doesn't seem like 5 years....
by Open mind in...but 5 years ago today, i made my first post here on jwn.. .
i was an elder, had a true-believing jw wife and our unbaptized publisher children were beginning to feel pressure from other jws to take the plunge.. .
amazing how much can happen in 5 trips around the sun.. .
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...but 5 years ago today, I made my first post here on JWN.
I was an elder, had a true-believing JW wife and our unbaptized publisher children were beginning to feel pressure from other JWs to take the plunge.
Now we're all out.
Amazing how much can happen in 5 trips around the sun.
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Per the Oct 15, 2011 WT: Forced to attend church under threat of beating? Result: He had little regard for religion.
by Open mind inthe current kool-aid watchtower has a life story by a guy named fred rusk who grew up in the 1930's.
notice his understandable response to being forced to attend the baptist church.. .
the watchtower, october 15, 2011, p. 18. .
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OUTLAW: "No JW Kid can refuse to go to the Kingdom Hall.."
Exactly.
As Rocketman said, they don't get the irony.
It reminds me of the article not too long ago that was targeting people from India that had the statement that 'no one should be forced to choose between their religious beliefs and their family'.
JWs are special, and what they see as applying to the rest of the world, doesn't apply to them.
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WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984
by flipper infinally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .
as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.
much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.
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Hey there Flipper.
Sending you a PM in a couple minutes.
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2011 Annual meeting information needed!
by Atlantis inbarbara anderson has already mentioned that she is swamped with emails.
she also needs date information on the 2011 annual meeting.. many thanks!.
nevada.
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Gayle: "Isn't it like the first Saturday in October?"
Yep. Last year it was Saturday, October 2, 2010.
Should be Saturday, October 1, 2011 this year. But I haven't seen this, or looked for it, in print.
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Per the Oct 15, 2011 WT: Forced to attend church under threat of beating? Result: He had little regard for religion.
by Open mind inthe current kool-aid watchtower has a life story by a guy named fred rusk who grew up in the 1930's.
notice his understandable response to being forced to attend the baptist church.. .
the watchtower, october 15, 2011, p. 18. .
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The current Kool-Aid Watchtower has a life story by a guy named Fred Rusk who grew up in the 1930's. Notice his understandable response to being forced to attend the Baptist Church.
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The Watchtower, October 15, 2011, p. 18
"Serving Jehovah Has Been My Delight -- as told by Fred Rusk"
Grandfather's older daughters managed the household. Although he was not a religious man, his daughters were strict Southern Baptists. Under threat of a beating, I was forced to attend church every Sunday. So from an early age, I had little regard for religion.
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*** w54 1/15 p. 58 par. 15 Disciplining Children for Life ***
15 Did any of you children ever get in trouble for not sitting still, maybe during a meeting? You should go to the fawn, you restless ones, and consider its ways, and be wise. A mother deer will conceal its baby or fawn and instruct it to freeze motionless, and it will remain without moving for hours. Rarely do fawns disobey and move, but if they do they get a spanking from sharp mother hoofs.
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27 You parents know what you must do. You children know what you must do. Jehovah knows what he will do. If we obey him, he will do things for us. If we disobey him, he will do things to us. Remember, the meek will inherit the earth; the rebellious will return to the earth. Let us try to inhabit it, not return to it.
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Can you feel the love?
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Society tells us to stop asking questions...
by cedars ini was just glancing at the back of the october 15th watchtower and the questions from readers.
the question under discussion is "what should i do when i have a question about something i read in the bible or when i need advice about a personal problem?".
the article goes on to discuss how we should consult the watch tower publications index among the many 'tools' that have been provided by the faithful and discreet slave whenever we have a question that is not directly discussed in the publications.. one statement really caught my eye, because it's the first time i've ever seen the society actually dissuade people from writing in with questions.
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This QFR is just trying to act as a filter to keep the sheep who aren't Elders from directly contacting Bethel.
1. If you have a question, try looking it up yourself.
2. If you can't find anything, try REALLY hard.
3. Either shut up or..
4. Ask an Elder.
(This next step wasn't spelled out in the QFR but it's the way things were at least up until a couple years ago.)
5. If the Elder is stumped, the Body of Elders will decide whether it's worth contacting the Branch.
I'm pretty sure I remember similar instructions in the past, but, I'm too lazy to look it up. Maybe I'll call Bethel.
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